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Album-like menu handling of On-Demand content

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I am trying to get a list of radio programmes to have a sub-list of segments (not always present).

I have it working on players and LMS web default skin but not in Jive or Material skin.
The ones that do not work will not descend into the submenu.
I suspect this is touch-to-play related ... however, I turn off TTP (perhaps incorrectly) in the menu if the programme has segments available.

The structure I am trying to get is something like this:

Programme1
Programme2
- segment1
- segment2
Programme3

Each of the items above are playable ... but I cannot get to segment1 or segment2 in Jive/Material

I'll collect an edited dump of the @menu later but I thought I'd post here in case it is something that is known and easy to resolve.

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